163 replies to this topic

[azaiko]

To Eyoi,

Thanks for the y sound.

I didn't realise that my tongue should back a bit after making sound.

[Foitionas]

no they are not idioms

means = from him who doesn't have anything

I could say that the first one is in ancient Greek little bit

I make a mistake

a-po af-ton pou den (similar with "then") ehi ke ka-te-hi


I have = eho
you have = ehis or eheis
he/she/it has = ehi or ehei
we have = ehoume
you have = ehete
they have = ehoun(e)


When I started to learn German, I started from pronunciation of vowels and consonants. If you try like this you won't make it!!

kateho or κατ - έχω means = occupy, own, have

if you want a dictionary I suggest to you Engish - Greek oxford dictionary. It will be helpful http://www.amazon.co...29935610&sr=8-4

[azaiko]

Hi all,

Tomorrow I am gonna to a house in zone-2 to pick up a greek book with cd or dvd (not sure).

Regarding a good dictionary, I will purchase it once I have learnt basic grammar and pronunciation.

I will work in a winery soon 2 hours driving far from Mel so it is a bit urgent that I should get one before March.

[TZAKI]

GOOD Luck

[azaiko]

how can I upload photos and images here?

I want to show all what books I got from a Cyprusian Australian

[russel]

azaiko,sounds like ur quite serious about this stuff...language and all.

obviously,youlll go far in life.

better than most greeks in australia who seem to have forgotten to speak greek..

including others not in australia such as myself,who have no clue at times....!?

keep up the good work.

[azaiko]

http://net.toyota.gr...64E/portal.aspx

I am reading 'easy greek' and find 'γκαρτζονικασ'.

What is the connection of this word and toyota?

Is it a model or a place?

Thanks to all!

[azaiko]

Hi Rus,

I am developing my 7th language and I hope I am speak Greek fluently next time when I meet the lady who gave me books and CDs.

[Foitionas]

azaiko, on 01 March 2012 - 04:23 PM, said:

http://net.toyota.gr...64E/portal.aspx

I am reading 'easy greek' and find 'γκαρτζονικασ'.

What is the connection of this word and toyota?

Is it a model or a place?

Thanks to all!

it's the last name of the Businessman

if you want to read a Newspaper take a glance here

http://www.tovima.gr/

http://www.ethnos.gr/default.asp

http://www.kathimerini.gr/

http://www.tanea.gr/

http://www.protothema.gr/

[Foitionas]

If you want to speak Greek fluently you need 4 years maybe 5 years

[azaiko]

παλακαλώ Foitionas.

I am also learning another language at the same time so it could take 4 years to develop both new languages

[whooshka kavorka]

Your enthusiasm and determination to master new languages, for the sake of it, serve as an example for others to follow. Kala sta heria sou

[Foitionas]

I am also learning German it wasn't as easy as I was thought. It was very hard to reach at B1 level, it took me 1 year but I went on o Private School not by myself. Italian you can easily learn by your own and maybe Spanish but they are easy languages. Greeks are so complicated as you think isn't easy to understand the differences between English or Chinese. The Greek language includes 6 mil words at least even me I don't know all of them! So learn fluently 1 language and when you are prepared you can learn an other one, but without help of a private school or to teach you sb Greek I don't thing that you'll at the end to manage it.

[russel]

azaiko, on 02 March 2012 - 01:44 PM, said:

παλακαλώ Foitionas.

I am also learning another language at the same time so it could take 4 years to develop both new languages

azaiko, on 01 March 2012 - 04:25 PM, said:

Hi Rus,

I am developing my 7th language and I hope I am speak Greek fluently next time when I meet the lady who gave me books and CDs.

guon dong wa hai tseui lan ge yu yin.yu guo lei sek guon dong wa, lei wui go dat hei lip man hou yong yi.

[azaiko]

hey all!

I am working at a winery but I can use the cable internet here.

I did some Greek practice.
book answer: θαυμασιο κοριτσι

Shouldn't it be θαυμασή κοριτσι because κοριτσι is 'girl'?

[azaiko]

To Rus,

However most of our tongues are too flat to pronounce some syllables, such as 'r' and 'l'.

[russel]

azaiko, on 05 March 2012 - 04:47 PM, said:

hey all!

I am working at a winery but I can use the cable internet here.

I did some Greek practice.
book answer: θαυμασιο κοριτσι

Shouldn't it be θαυμασή κοριτσι because κοριτσι is 'girl'?

no thafmasio korotsi because it is neuter form.

remember every word has masculine,feminine or neuter.and the adjective goes with the form of the word.

to koritsi means the world is neuter..so the adjective thafmasio must be neuter.as well..!

did you understand my cantonese ?

[russel]

russel, on 04 March 2012 - 07:42 AM, said:

azaiko, on 02 March 2012 - 01:44 PM, said:

παλακαλώ Foitionas.

I am also learning another language at the same time so it could take 4 years to develop both new languages

azaiko, on 01 March 2012 - 04:25 PM, said:

Hi Rus,

I am developing my 7th language and I hope I am speak Greek fluently next time when I meet the lady who gave me books and CDs.

guon dong wa hai tseui lan ge yu yin.yu guo lei sek guon dong wa, lei wui go dat hei lip man hou yong yi.

what am i saying..?

[eyoismos]

azaiko, on 05 March 2012 - 04:47 PM, said:

hey all!

I am working at a winery but I can use the cable internet here.

I did some Greek practice.
book answer: θαυμασιο κοριτσι

Shouldn't it be θαυμασή κοριτσι because κοριτσι is 'girl'?

this raises an interesting issue that was also brought up by another person, whose native language ALSO does not have gender in the language

(i take it chinese, in all its forms does not have gender hard-coded into the language)

i am curious ... what other languages have you learned to speak, and how many of them have this "concept"

i know for example, most european languages have either "male-female" and "male-female-neutral" associations

and in answer to your question .... i am no linguist, not even by a long shot, but the way is see it, ....and for example.... just as we say "to koritsi", we also say "to ayori", - the idea being, neither have reached adulthood, to be clasified "female" or "male" respectively, thus the reference to a "neutal gender"

invariable, there is always a reason why each word is given a specific gender

i have this "philosophical" view, whereby, for example, in one area, the concepts that inspired men towards civilization, (at least in the greek sense of the concept), where initiated by women - for men where preoccupied with war - thus war = ο πόλεμος, while we have η φιλοσοφία, η τέχνη, η αριθμητική, η αρχιτεκτονική, η πολιτική, η πόλις, .... and so on and so forth

but the same token we have also other concepts mostly associated with women, or derived from commonly perceived "roots" from the famale entity

thus we have η γέννηση (birth) - as opposed to ο θάνατος (see reference to war above), η ζήλεια, η αγάπη, η προδοσία, etc etc etc

now i could be wrong, and i wouldnt be surprised either, but certainly indications certainly point me towards that direction. like i said though.... NOT a linguist- not even close - ..... just looking at things logically, while also looking from a historic perspective

[eyoismos]

by extension, and again, looking at a historic view, while also staying within the realms of observation..... often most people, irrelevant of native speaker or not, the spelling of words, and why they are so, are questioned. prime example.... greek has multiple "i" sounding letters

here is another observation .... "υ" the greek ipsilon - i have noticed that its used with words that have a concept of containment or container, - be it physical, literal, relative, vaige or implied

thus we have υγεία (health) , ύψος, (height) , υπο-* (prefix meaning under or within - * being other words with the prefex in front of them)

on the other hand ..... i have been accused of having a wild imagination - but then this approach has helped me tremendously when i was leaning greek (my first language, being a member of the greek diaspora, and in my case, was english)