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[russel]

look at what happens today in islamic countries..

[TZAKI]

why are yo so fascinated with this?

[russel]

just reminding everybody..nothing more.

[phoneyid]

He's a rabid Zionist, just like the Norwegian killer of the 60-80 anti-Zionist protester youths; he wants all the Arabs dead.

Did you hear the one yesterday about the Zionists poisoning Palestinian water-wells?? No, I didn't think so.

From http://www.theinside...icle.asp?id=964

Quote

A Palestinian village in the northern West Bank has appealed for pressure to be put on Israel to end the recurrent poisoning of their only source of water supply by Jewish settlers.

Last week, heavily armed settlers from the settlement of Yitzhar, near Nablus, vandalised and sabotaged the water supply on which the nearby village of Madama depends.

The latest poisoning is the seventh of its kind during the past three years, according to village officials.

An Israeli army spokesman said the military is looking into the matter.

Also reported by BBC

[russel]

did you hear the one about Gaza rockets being fired at Israel..?

well,Israel,will not just sit around and put up with it.for you and other anti semites,it irks you that Israel,will not allow this to continue and will bring these bastards to the natural conclusion they deserve.

http://www.jpost.com....aspx?id=234777

[russel]

want to worry about something?

worry about this..

http://www.jpost.com....aspx?id=234127

Iran deserves a change of regime.

the West needs to act now.

[russel]

http://www.jpost.com....aspx?id=228134

[set2love]

russel, on 19 August 2011 - 04:49 AM, said:

look at what happens today in islamic countries..

islamic countries thrive on war and death ...when have they ever been at peace?

[russel]

very good point SET.

[phoneyid]

And now we move into Libya to reinstate the Royalists, the fanatics who are bound to reverse Gadafi's liberties to women.
When the Royals from Benghazi ran the show after "liberation" in the 1950's there were no colleges, sixteen college graduates. 3 lawyers with not a single Libyan physician, engineer, surveyor or pharmacist in the Kingdom. Estimates of only 250,000 Libyans literate and 10% of the population was blind, with eye diseases such as trachoma.

Gadafi pulled his people out of the sewers and he's supplied water throughout the dessert, housed everyone and educated his country but now his crime is that all Libya's gold is kept in Libya, he controls a lot of oil and he's attempting to make a unified African gold backed currency, a gold dinar.

The Saudis, the most oppressive of all are permanently propped up by the USA, and the Taliban in Afghanistan are brought in and out of power at USA's whim.

Saddam Hussein and Gadafi kept the zelots at bay, as did Mossadeq in Iran until 1953 until USA and UK moved in with their operation AJAX, and we all know how things are going in Iraq and Libya now, and Aghanistan... they only need to sell one of their children so the other 5 don't die this year (tough choice) coz they aren't getting much money for the 6500 tons/year of opium they grow since the axis of the willing has moved in and enabled people like the recently deceased brother of our installed President Kharzai to by the primary opium controllers.

[russel]

phoney u make good points.

kill them all..

kill these fucken black bastards,these muslims,,,and dont prop anyone up.

problem solved.

the west has spent too much time and money propping some of these assholes.

deliver them from evil,and fuck them..all of them !

[phoneyid]

russel, on 26 August 2011 - 06:21 PM, said:

phoney u make good points.

kill them all..

kill these fucken black bastards,these muslims,,,and dont prop anyone up.

problem solved.

the west has spent too much time and money propping some of these assholes.

deliver them from evil,and fuck them..all of them !

I agree that we shouldn't prop up despots and thereby circumvent natural democratic processes, but as far as wanting to kill all those that are unlike you, well that just makes you a psychopath. Lack of ethics is a sure way to achieve the hights of economic success.

[russel]

phoney.

trust me.

if earlier emperors had the commitment to kill these black bastards when they had the chance,then we would not be in this mess today.

we still have an opportunity..but it may slip us by.

the crusaders were a bitter dissapointment.

instead of fucking up the arbas,they spent their time fucking up the byzantine empire.
the reason of course,was the catholic church..and our friends the orthodox clergy..who allowed the divisions to continue.

today,we need a united crusade against these black bastards.

iran is the ream menace of today.

eliminate iran and we have almost won.

Islam under the control of moderates such as what occurs in Turkey is no threat to the West.

i see Turkey as a country which can still have islamic religion but able to deal and march together with the West.

[russel]

economic success is based upon one's ability to look at trends,and to work within the confines of the law.

ethics have nothing to do with it.

[phoneyid]

The way you speak about these 'others' is often very candid while so callous or brutal and in contrast so extreme in the minds of others here that I fear they may view your sentiments as nothing more than parodies, like a cartoon.

Little do people here and in wider society know, even though you and others spell it out; that there are people, many people like you that share your sentiments and actually have great influence in our social direction far beyond that which their proportional representation should otherwise have in an open and democratic system.
Iran, Iraq, Libiya, and even Afghanistan to name a few, have had a chance to become more like Turkey and to surpass it, but a united self determining and stable system for these resource rich lands does not suite certain psychopathic people's interests.

[russel]

well phoney i have been asked a number of tims to become an opinion maker both within and outside of parliaments...in greece,even recently as well as in britain..in britain after finishing university i was given a chance to work for a member of parliament for the conservative party..basically as a party hack,an intern to run around and get his coffe and learn the ropes..

i never had the discipline to do it..hookers and all that was more important.

but i gather,that you wouldnt have voted for me..!..?

people saw lots of potential in me..i wonder why you dont see that spark and keep having a go at me?

[phoneyid]

Russ, you may exhibit certain "charms" from time to time and perhaps some "persuasive" abilities but you do seem to lack compassion. An attribute that most people have but you and some others don't rank high on, and compassion seems to rapidly diminish as a concern to you for those as they become more distant from you in relationship, be it kinship, racial, or business relationships.

There are Christians that murder abortion doctors, and Christians like the Anders bloke in Norway that killed all those people, if certain financiers and covert government powers advance those types as we have advanced religious zelots in some countries and are currently doing in Libya, then we will be exactly the same here.

People that covertly advance interests that you advocate, do so typically covertly because they know that the vast populous do not aspire to the ideals that you do. You and those of your mindset are anti-Democratic, elitists, you and they hold fascist ideals; a tendency to hold a view of the vast human populous as cattle to be controlled and or enslaved or 'cleansed' to suit fascist ideals.
This attitude is abhorrent to normal people, and you don't get it; you seem to be missing a gene; you might think it makes you stronger, but there is no doubt that it's abnormal.

[russel]

phoneyid, on 27 August 2011 - 04:56 PM, said:

Russ, you may exhibit certain "charms" from time to time and perhaps some "persuasive" abilities but you do seem to lack compassion.


THAT HAS BEEN SAID TO ME.SPECIALLY BY MY SECOND WIFE..!


An attribute that most people have but you and some others don't rank high on, and compassion seems to rapidly diminish as a concern to you for those as they become more distant from you in relationship, be it kinship, racial, or business relationships.

WELL,PHONEY,I AM NOT A SADIST.BUT,ONE MUST UNDERSTAND I WASNT CUT ANY SLACK WHEN I WAS YOUNG,AND THIS IS THE WAY I HAVE KNOWN AND GROWN UP.
TO ME THIS IS NORMAL.
I TRULY AM TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU MEAN,AND THOUGH I COMPREHEND,I DONT TRULY SEE IT.
REMEMBER WE ARE PRODUCTS OF OUR UPBRINGING,AND OUR PAST.


There are Christians that murder abortion doctors, and Christians like the Anders bloke in Norway that killed all those people, if certain financiers and covert government powers advance those types as we have advanced religious zelots in some countries and are currently doing in Libya, then we will be exactly the same here.

PHONEY,YOU SEEM TO BE A HIGHLY INTELLIGNET AND EXTREMELY ARTICULATE CHAP.
I AM SURE YOURE SUCCESFUL IN WHATEVER YOU DO IN LIFE.
BUT,AS AN INTELLIGENT FELLOW,YOU MUST UNDERSTAND THAT HUMAN LIFE IS A COMMODITY JUST LIKE ANYTHING ELSE IN THIS WORLD WHICH IS BOUGHT AND SOLD.
NOTHING MORE,NOTHING LESS.

MURDER ISNT NECESSARILY NICE,BUT AT TIMES,THE KILLING OF ENEMIES AND THE KILLING FOR A PURPOSE SERVES MANKIND.

IF HITLER COULD HAVE BEEN KILLED WHEN HE WAS A TEENAGER,AND YOU HAD THE CHANCE TO DO IT,WOULDNT YOU DO IT?
WOULDNT YOU PULL THE TRIGGER OR SUPPORT SOMEONE WHO DID ?

SOMETIMES THOUGH POLITICAL AND BUSINESS ASSASINATIONS DONT MAKE SENSE,ONE MUST THINK,THAT ISSUES SHOULD BE LOOKED AT IN THE LONG TERM.

People that covertly advance interests that you advocate, do so typically covertly because they know that the vast populous do not aspire to the ideals that you do.

TRUE.MANY COMFORTABLE MIDDLE CLASS PEOPLE,DONT GET THEIR HANDS DIRTY.
THEIR WORLD IS SECURE.
THEY KNOW NOTHING.
THEY DONT WANT TO KNOW.
THEY DEMAND THINGS FROM GOVT.
AND GOVTS GIVE IT TO THEM.
BUT EVERYTHING COMES AT A COST.
YOUR MORNING CORNFLAKES ARE PRODUCED AT THE EXPENSE OF A STARVING CHILD IN AFRICA.
YOUR SIMPLE HUMBLE SUBURBAN LIFESTYLE,IS RESPOSNIBLE FOR THE DEATH AND DESTRUCTION OF OUR ENVIROMENT AND OF SPECIES YOU AND I HAVE NEVER EVEN HEARD OF.
YOU MAY KNOW THIS,AND NOT CARE.
THE WORLD IS UNFAIR.
BUT,THE CURRENT MIDDLE CLASS EXISTENCE OF WESTERN SOCIETY IS THE WAY FORWARD FOR THE SECURITY OF THE PLANET AND OF HUMANITY.
THIS DECISION WAS MADE AS FAR BACK AS THE KNIGHTS TEMPLARS..THIS IS WHY WE HAD THE FRENCH REVOLUTION,THE GREEK REVOLUTION,THE RUSSIAN REVOLUTION..ETC ETC..


You and those of your mindset are anti-Democratic, elitists, you and they hold fascist ideals; a tendency to hold a view of the vast human populous as cattle to be controlled and or enslaved or 'cleansed' to suit fascist ideals.

TRUE.

WE BELIEVE THAT HUMANS ARE NOT THE SAME.

WE BELIEVE THAT NOT ALL HUMANS DESERVE TO BE TREATED THE SAME.


This attitude is abhorrent to normal people, and you don't get it; you seem to be missing a gene; you might think it makes you stronger, but there is no doubt that it's abnormal.

IT IS A MIND SET.

MANY OF US VIEW THAT SOME ARE HERE TO LEAD,AND SOME ARE HERE TO SERVE.

ABHORRENT?

MAYBE,IN THIS PSEUDO DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY,MAYBE.

BUT DEMOCRACY IS AN ILLUSION ANYWAY.IT EXISTS MEREL TO STOP THE MASSES FROM REVOLTING AND CREATING HAVOC.
ISTORY HAS SHOWN THAT THE HUMAN WILL IS AMAZING,AND THE THIRST FOR FREEDOM IS INCREDIBLE.
THIS IS WHY MONARCHIES HAVE FAILED.
THIS IS WHY DICTATORSHIPS HAVE FAILED.
THE ILLUSION OF DEMOCRACY ALLOWS PEOPLE TO FEEL FREE,THOUGH,POWER REMAINS WHERE IT SHOULD,AMONGST THOSE MEANT TO RULE.

I AM BEING BRUTALLY HONEST HERE.
I DO SO TO LET YOU UNDERSTAND HOW THINGS WORK.
I AM SURE YOU KNOW ALREADY OR HAVE READ IT,BUT,THE TRUTH IS THIS IS HOW IT WAS AND REMAINS HOW IT IS AND WILL BE.

EVERYBODY DISCUSSES ABOUT THE THREAT OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER.
THERE IS NO CHANGE FROM THE PAST AND THE FUTURE.
CONTROL IS CONTROL..WHETHER YOURE SERVING THE MASTER IN THE BEDROOM OR THE RURAL FIELD,OR WHETHER YOU ARE MICROCHIPPED.
CONTROL IS CONTROL.

[phoneyid]

Russ, you or I or others may fancy ourselves as being more intelligent, but I think we are largely the same.

You may 'rightly' say that most people "don't want to know", but in my opinion, that mindset is a product of our education or rearing system. If a people are raise to question, then they WILL want to know.
Unfortunately those who profess that only they are capable of understanding and ruling are the very ones that manipulate information within our society for fear that people WILL actually understand if exposed to the truth.

You know this Russ, but others here and in wider society (because of information control) see it as nothing more than outlandish "conspiracy theory" whereas it's "conspiracy fact".
I invite all to watch this interview of Norman Dodd, on TAX EXEMPT FOUNDATIONS.
In 1954 he was the staff director of "The Congressional Special Committee To Investigate Tax Exempt Foundations" aka "The Reece Committee"
This 52min video is an important historical document.

Edited by phoneyid, 28 August 2011 - 01:39 PM.

[phoneyid]