By Paul Bignell
Spartans! Prepare for, well, embarrassment. It seems that far from being elite, noble warriors, each worth 1,000 of any rival soldiers, King Leonidas' crack troops were a bunch of bullying thugs. And Alexander the Great? A mummy's boy: in fact, his mum was a better fighter by a long chalk and died a soldier's death on the battlefield.
They and other figures from antiquity are to have their reputations shattered by a new British study which reveals the "truth" behind long-established legends. Michael Scott, a classicist at Cambridge University, points to evidence that could change the way we think about our classical heroes.
The heroic Spartans of Thermopylae, whose valiant standoff with an enormous Persian army is immortalised in the Hollywood film 300, are unmasked by Dr Scott as little more than war-mongering bullies of the ancient world who policed Athens with near-mindless violence, destroying anything they took a dislike to.
Alexander the Great, remembered for his conquests across the known world and spreading Greek civilisation to the east, is dismissed was a "mummy's boy" whose endless stream of letters from the battlefield to his mother Olympias infuriated his generals.
Despite the fact that Alexander was recently voted the greatest Greek of all time by in a poll in Greece, Dr Scott charges that his successes were merely opportunistic exploitation of foundations laid by his father, Philip II.
Olympias, sympathetically portrayed by Angelina Jolie in the film Alexander, was a violent and fearless warrior to put her son to shame, according to Dr Scott.
It's even suspected that she may have murdered her husband, Philip of Macedon. She was finally captured in battle and put to death in 316BC by Macedonian comrades of those whom she had slain in battle.
The Greek philosopher Isocrates also suffers under scrutiny. Until now he was thought a steadfast believer in democracy in Athens and is widely believed to be one of the greatest orators and political commentators of his time. But, late in life, Isocrates realised democracy no longer worked in Athens and threw in his lot in with Philip of Macedon when Philip became king.
Even the great "Golden City" of Athens itself is not spared a kicking from Dr Scott. He argues that its early successes have, over time, obscured a darker history that mirrors societal problems in 21st-century Britain. Far from being a major world player, fourth-century BC Athens imploded under the weight of a crippling economic downturn, while politicians embroiled themselves in fraud. Meanwhile, they sent the army to fight unpopular foreign wars and struggled to cope with a surge in immigration.
"If history can provide a map of where we have been, a mirror to where we are right now and perhaps even a guide to what we should do next, the story of this period is perfectly suited to do that in our times," Dr Scott said yesterday.
"It shows how an earlier generation of people responded to similar challenges and which strategies succeeded. It is a period of history that we would do well to think about a little more right now and we ignore it at our peril."
Michael Scott's book From Democrats to Kings is published tomorrow by Icon Books
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Myth of ancient Greece's 'heroes' blown away
Started by
Levendi
, Oct 05 2009 03:29 AM
8 replies to this topic
#1
Posted 05 October 2009 - 03:29 AM
#3
Posted 08 October 2009 - 12:39 PM
AMEN TO THAT!!!!!!!
however....is it not because we dont read further and nip the potential "problems" in the bud, that we end up having, for example situations like FYROM, that are allowed to "grow and prosper" and allow them to become thorns in our side?
just a thought in a form of a query
however....is it not because we dont read further and nip the potential "problems" in the bud, that we end up having, for example situations like FYROM, that are allowed to "grow and prosper" and allow them to become thorns in our side?
just a thought in a form of a query
#4
Posted 08 October 2009 - 12:42 PM
I don't think there's much we can do in this case. He has the right to publish his bullshit theories, and we have the right to set the record straight by propounding our own version of history.
#5
Posted 12 October 2009 - 11:27 AM
how many theories as such are out there??? probably not too many and who listens no one so what are you worried about.
#6
Posted 09 December 2009 - 09:00 AM
you know what.....lets start some theories of our own
we all know the story of persephone and hades.......6 months in and 6 months out of hell
very few people know the real story .....according to the gospel of eyo
here is an extract:
persephone: when are you going to clean up the pool of souls...its filthy
hades: but darling......
persephone: no buts!!!! clean up or i will book out
hades: but......
persephone: and while you are at it, that bloody crank you have manning the boat on the river of sticks is freaking me out .....he just stares at me through those god awefull eyes sockets......its called visual harassment, i tell you...and i wont have any of it.....fire him....and get somebody who is at least more fashion conscious.....that robe you have him wearing is soooo yesterday
hades: but....
persephone: and can you do something about you entrance ...clean up......its as if somebody died there
hades:....but....
persephone: and while you are at it...
hades: as to dialo moriiiii (oopseinai edo idi!) as' tin gi mori na min sou po.......kai mou ta eheis prixei......ela piso se 6 mines ....mpas kai vro ligo isihia .....ohi tipote allo....na......einai kati psihoules pou eida na mpoune prosfata.....kai leo na kano ligo .....ton gousgouni......
we all know the story of persephone and hades.......6 months in and 6 months out of hell
very few people know the real story .....according to the gospel of eyo
here is an extract:
persephone: when are you going to clean up the pool of souls...its filthy
hades: but darling......
persephone: no buts!!!! clean up or i will book out
hades: but......
persephone: and while you are at it, that bloody crank you have manning the boat on the river of sticks is freaking me out .....he just stares at me through those god awefull eyes sockets......its called visual harassment, i tell you...and i wont have any of it.....fire him....and get somebody who is at least more fashion conscious.....that robe you have him wearing is soooo yesterday
hades: but....
persephone: and can you do something about you entrance ...clean up......its as if somebody died there
hades:....but....
persephone: and while you are at it...
hades: as to dialo moriiiii (oopseinai edo idi!) as' tin gi mori na min sou po.......kai mou ta eheis prixei......ela piso se 6 mines ....mpas kai vro ligo isihia .....ohi tipote allo....na......einai kati psihoules pou eida na mpoune prosfata.....kai leo na kano ligo .....ton gousgouni......
#7
Posted 09 December 2009 - 09:03 AM
ha ha ha
maybe it should be in the jokes section?
maybe it should be in the jokes section?
#8
Posted 09 December 2009 - 09:11 AM
shouldn't most conspiracy theories be there?
#9
Posted 09 December 2009 - 09:52 AM
yep your right!
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